fauve, Jim Burton said he DID morph Dina's mesh and that SMD is not SMV with Dina's head, but Dina's actual morphed geometry. He's just trying to play with Dina's mesh to get her close to SMV's dimensions and specs so that SMD can wear SMV's clothes. But Jim IS using all Dina, no Vicky. I wish I could say the same for Remco's even tho he did do a good job. If I wanted Dina's head with Vicky's body, I could do it myself tho. Laurie