See I knew that what I said would raise hackles.....EClark you missed my point by a million miles.....Yep I want to be able to Pose....animate....take and take the whole scene into another program to polish it THE WAY I LIKE IT. Doesn't mean I want Poser to ONLY Pose or be a figure engine for everything else. I do a lot of JUST Poser graphics and points about the hair are right on my list of what Poser needs to do better....along with Lights....Poser has one of the most difficult lighting set ups and only recently have you been able to 'grab' point lights and move them where you want them......Back when I was still using Curious Labs I found Daz and when I found how nicely I could control the lighting and what I could do with point lights I thought I might choose that program as my main animator. But the interface for Daz turned me off. I have stuck With Poser not Just for its Character Posing features but its interface. Its highly adaptable features and the fact that I just plain LIKE it. I would love in some cases to take a Maya scene and Import it into POSER. Manipulate ITS figures as easily as I can Poser/Daz figures and Take it BACK into Maya to refine it even Further. Ditto Lightwave, and Blender....etc...ad nauseum. I would love to see Poser be so flexible in that respect that other programs pale in comparison. In other words to make those guys who (in another forum) got on me for using Poser because it was JUST A Character Posing program...I want them to rue those words. I want the Opposite of what you have thought I was saying....No other program does Figure Posing better....so what is wrong with that....add the ability to Manipulate models by point and polygon.....add the ability to do Strand/Fiber in a more realistic and CONTROLABLE fashion.....add good lighting tools and ALL of the other features that have been bandied about in this thread. But EXPAND on the Fusion Idea.....Don't let Poser become another program trying to be ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE....Make it the Choice for animators who use Any program.