gate posted at 12:52PM Tue, 22 October 2019 - #4367930

@ quietrob I do not intend to attack the ones who are not directly in charge with this activation system , I am well aware that People use Poser for there own Purpose and some for there daily Bread ... It is the ones that actually could suffer even more as they would depend on it , these sure have to give allot of trust to this story as it could damage there existence !

See it is not good to worry or getting under Pressure , it pushes Productivity way down , even on my side . There are allot of silent people out there that just got shocked and look right-away for alternatives ! My Personal intention is as long as Poser will depend on calling back home even if it is once in a year I would be out , so as long as it lasts I will be using Poser Pro 2014 and the 11.1 ! the way it seems to be now Bondware does not intend to remove the feature and probably continue using it in Poser 12.

Sure I can see that People try to help in here ( As loong as they can ) and bond-ware should be thankful for it, They should also be thankful as the earnings to get Poser came from the 50% that Creators gave up for the store rent. I might not be able to Influence things with my thought and I am aware that this is a Public forum , it is why I am using it then there might be someone who can understand the consequences, not to fallow there intentions like a sheep and might convince them that this Call home feature is a high risc to loose it all.

I also started to check for alternatives that would not cause to loose works done over the last decades , I even think that you lost Reality , as it got doped the moment it realized that it has lost compatibility with poser. I am experiencing a incredible dropdown on Interests for Poser models , this all does not come from nothing ! Even I will not be able to motivate Artists any further with extraordinary Poser models if they do not use Poser any longer , it will just end up as a great Eye catcher nothing else. And I do not do it for a Living I do it because I believe in the Potential of this Program ! Now I just start to doubt when i see the results , all just because some Idiots have a Power and control complex Keeping that Stupid call home feature making it even more strict ....

While I understand where you are coming from I do have a different view point. For a start I doubt too many Poser users have ever felt secure in the future of Poser considering the Doom Sayers have been predicting it's demise ever since I started using Poser and that was over 20 years ago. I did have concerns when buying Poser 11 as I disliked the phone home feature but it was at a stunning sale price even so I was well aware of the issues I might have if SM sold it. The fact that Bondware purchased it was actually a relief to me as it was better than what I expected.

I take your point on Reality but is it a major loss, Superfly decreases the need for it and, despite needing some tweaks is generally needs less playing with to get a decent render. If you are serious and have some free cash there is also Octane which I suspect would wipe the floor with both Reality and Superfly on a fair number of renders.

Finally, do I trust Rendo/Bondware? Well some that know me well and have read my posts in the past may well be surprised to find the answer, so far at least is, yes. I think they have done a great job in the short time they have been owners and I am certain Poser has a better future with them than SM.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.