Gee, I'm confused too! ;-) What I ment by "SMD has SMV's body" is I've got Dina's mesh started on the road to matching the shape of SMV, which will be step 1, then she will go her own way. She is all Dina, honest! Just to confuse the issue, here is a "fake" SMD, which is Dina's head on SMV's body, using a upper neck adaper which needs-more-work (I only spent about 5 minutes on it). No texture mapping at all (I wasn't about to start on that), and fake SMD is posed with one of the poses that come with SMV, only with the head looking forward. I think this pose was also used on "YA GOTTA SEE THIS" too, now that I look at it, and I don't think Dina can use SMV poses (not for the same look, anyway).