Ha!! fauve, you've got it exactly, you going to sell this here or at DAZ? ;-) O.K., for those who joined in late in the story, here are what all those initals mean: Vickie - the original lady sold at DAZ SMV - Supermodel Vickie, my rather extensive modification of Vickies mesh, sold as a complete figure, take Vickie Head morphs and textures (only). SMMV - sort of the same thing, but done as a character, that is a collection of morphs for Vickie. The Mk 1a version sort of confuses the issue, as she has SMV's high-heel feet, the default ( 0 bend) isn't flatfoot, it is on her toes. SMD - Remcreations first posts called her Supermodel Dina, he doesn't call her that any more, but this got me started on my own version of Dina, to be called that, she will be made like SMMD, as a morph set, and she will have the high heel feet, and (I hope) wear SMV's clothing. (SMV has her own line of clothing, too, BTW!) ************************************************* Anyway, here is MY Supermodel Dina, a work in process (she is just roughed out as a proof of concept), part in mesh, which is also how Remcreations is going to have to show his to get anybody to belive it.