Wolf, having this sort of conversation with one such as yourself is pretty pointless to be honest. Your reply shows you don't really understand what I'm getting at when you say stuff like "the rubbish look of DX9". The look is an aesthetic, and what you see as rubbish, is idealistic to anyone wanting that particualr aesthetic. My point is that PBR renderers that are 100% bent on photorealism, will not allow you to do that, so in effect, they remove the artist's artistic licence to generate the aesthetic they require. So to someone wanting the DX9 aesthetic, Cycles is rubbish, Octane is rubbish, Lux is rubbish. DX9 is just an example of an aesthetic, as is the strange Standard/PBR hybrid renders you get from doing this stuff in Firefly, as seen in my previous post. For that purpose, Firefly is idealistic, whereas Superfly would be rubbish!

I'm not even going to get into conversations about that digital avatar stuff. other than to say that mocap already had a nail in its coffin long before it even got started. The future for animators is synthesised, procedural motion generation. No one is going to give a crap about mocap, body suits or anything that revolves around that stuff once synthesized procedural motion really takes off. The future is having a bunch of sliders to adjust, that generate and control the motion and randomness etc of your digital actor. Trust me on this, the future is NOT running around a huge hall sweating your bollocks off in a jumpsuit rigged with dots and body sensors, just to grab some mocap that could be done in seconds using a powerful synthesized motion system.

I watched the video you posted, but again, I was not talking about the toon style. Those images in my previous post are a perfect example of what I meant, something ideal for online comics and graphic novels. Something that looks like a 3D rendering while still managing not to look like a photo, and retains a colourful, arty look!

Well guess what mate, Cycles is really really rubbish at that aesthetic, whereas Firefly clearly rocks at it