Hey Mike, I wondered if MikeJ was You in your current incarnation, LOL! Bryce Forum? I wouldn't dare, with a name like VueMaster, up top it says this is the Poser Forum! By time we discovered that VM would help Bryce and any other app that tries to read Poser's mtl files, as well as Vue, I wasn't about to give up the pun-ny name and cool graphics! I must say you've been very tame as MikeJ, and the Poser List is positively wimpy since your nemesis Gumby got tossed, we miss you, LOL! cheers, Dan http://www.zenwareonline.com/cr2edit/cr2edit.html Sorry Win only for software http://www.zenwareonline.com for ZenPaint, ZenTile, ZenGrid and VueMaster