When I used the DIM to install V4/M++ and M4/M++ less than a week ago, it did a fresh download from their site instead of using what I had locally on my PC -- but even THAT version is only about two years old. I know the the date range of the V4 files I displayed earlier in this thread was from 2007 and 2008, but that's what they sent and installed for me a week ago. Repairs and updates to code doesn't necessarily mean they update the original code or folder dates when doing so. I will try a manual download just in case I see something newer, but I know they renamed Morphs ++ something else within the past year or so and V4 is probably the latest as well.