Yeah he has a weird sense of humor. On thread when I requested the morphs for V4 because the damn bot didn't call me back to the thread with replies fast enough, thinking I lost interest or was being rude he had a fit and started bashing me. Not very friendly. I hoped he was at least entertaining the notion but.... Checked out Onze's suff. He uses some very unusual alterations that won't allow any extra morphs to be used before or after his alterations are applied. l methodology I can't work with because the character has already been created and just need to be able to apply the limbless morphs to it. But thanks for the response.