Actually reread your comment/suggestion. I never actually tried the limbless morph for V4 on M4 (which is the morph I now think you may have been referring to) . Didn't dawn on me actually. See what I mean about being brain damaged!? :( As I said I have used countless V4 morphs on M4 (even recently having purchased Sparky's beautiful Werebeast morph for M4 I made a female version using several body part specific morphs for V4 on it with some pretty good results including Breast morphs and genital morphs from Karina and Raffelta and the cool female morph available here for M4. If these morphs worked I can't see why the limbless morph can't work. Will try. Thanks for spanking my comatose brain matter into a semblance of action. Now to get that damn computer!!!!!!!