Extremely interesting point, Jamball. Almost couldn't agree more. As a long-time TrueSpace user I've seen how plug-ins can transform a great app to a fantastic one, and even those who don't know TS may have heard of Linux! Caligari has taken the idea to the limit, officially publishing CD collections of the most popular plugins. I believe they've even bought some of the best and put them in TS5. It's a great idea for getting a lot of extra brainpower into development. When I say "almost" above, it's because CL has to stay in business, too. I'm fairly sure Caligari has lost some revenues because of plug-ins. Personally, I opted out of TS 5, because I have a TS4 plug-in for almost every new function offered as a selling point for TS5. Some people even say they keep TS 4 because some plug-ins have not yet been ported to TS 5!!! One way to get around this might be for CL to charge a license or royalties fee from commercial plug-ins, much like the Marketplace here on R'osity. I know some people would say it would be unfair for CL to take a cut of the income from other people's software, but then again, without Poser there'd be no place to host such a plug-in, so I think I'd accept it. After all, it is in our mutual interest to keep CL going, what else would we be doing with our spare time (and money) ? You listening in, mr. Cooper? ;-)