Fact - Poser 12 is not complete. They are expecting additions into the new year. Fact - There is only two days left before they release it. Next to no marketing material. Fact - If bondware are not going to show off its capabilities, then it will be down to the early adopters to do so. The only speculation here is whether this is deliberate. So what's the problem ? It works pretty well for Tesla. On Monday, members of this forum are going to be coming back with renders and appraisals.