Director, that is why speak about what Poser can or not. For profesional work we need more. If you render the texture above in Poser4 you will never get this effect. That is only simple painthing texture but using the shine map you will get the realistic effect. What I can do if the software is not good for the best effect, there my work for Poser4 will stop if CL do anything more for the new Poser5. I go with the future and wish to have the best effect.