Forum: Poser 12


Subject: The unmentioned death of DSON importation...

JAG opened this issue on Nov 17, 2020 ยท 144 posts


JAG posted Tue, 17 November 2020 at 11:08 PM

ghostship2 posted at 10:46PM Tue, 17 November 2020 - #4404949

Dude, it's not secret conspiracy to kill Daz figures in Poser. DSON is a...PYTHON 2 SCRIPT OWNED BY DAZ3D. Poser is moving on to...PYTHON3. If you want to complain to someone it might be DAZ3D or the folks who make python. Daz34d probably doesn't give a rats ass about DSON and would rather you use DS. You want to do that?

All the Generation 4 ( and Generation 3) figures still work and DO NOT REQUIRE PYTHON OR DSON TO WORK.

Well until this point I sort of respected you but clearly not. The Python point is not at hand. The point is that Bondware changed to P3 coding knowing full well they would not only kill most of the P2 programs and plugins. Clearly they knew there were compatibility issues and clearly they were aware DSON would be a victim. As my discussion with Mr. Taylor proved - they clearly didn't care that they were alienating and cutting off the hand that feeds them. Sadly the Vic4Mike4 figures still look more real than the current Poser Franken-figures. But you don't rip out the ability that half of your customer base uses. Why would you do that? Think about...hypothesize that you own Poser software and you know that possibly up to 50% of your customers are using DAZ figures in your program. Would you cut them off? 25%? 10%? Sure new python might be cool and better but do you adopt and harm your customer base? Only an idiot does that. The smarter idiot tries to find a work-around to get both. No they can't rewrite DSON but they could have worked with DAZ to update it. I'm sure DAZ doesn't want their Poser using customers lost either. It would behoove them. But this situation shows me just how unwanted and how unconcerned Bondware (like Smith) is with what hardcore and old-*ss users like me expect and want. This is why the program is all but dead. I shall speculate that unless serious changes are made, there won't be a Poser 13. They're alienating their base - the people who have lined up for the updates year after year. I began with Poser 2.0 with Meta Creations. I've been in line with cash until 11. 11 I would not buy because it was terrible. Clearly I wasn't the only one or Smith wouldn't have strangled the program...they planned on killing it until Bondware stepped in. Smith was done with it. Lost more than they made. I was part of the beta team at that point and I wailed like other members did about what was being done and not done. This same software-killing direction they took with 11 continues with Bondware. They're just slinging around a corpse of a program at this point. And I love Poser. I live for it and I'm not a Poser hater - I'm just the opposite - I want this program to survive and continue on but like so many others I'm watching it be run into the ground. I gotta say something at this point. Dropping DSON is stupid. I don't care what argument you make, you shouldn't have released without some sort of DSON compatibility. I won't buy it and others aren't going to either because of our immense DAZ libraries that require DSON. You're shoving us off onto DAZ Studio, Bondware...you do realize that right??? And we don't wanna go. Take our DSON and we have no choice. Think on that.