Forum: Poser 12


Subject: The unmentioned death of DSON importation...

JAG opened this issue on Nov 17, 2020 ยท 144 posts


JAG posted Wed, 18 November 2020 at 8:31 PM

wolf359 posted at 8:22PM Wed, 18 November 2020 - #4405021

It's not a sign of failure that third party programs do not >create an importer from that published file-format! for example >there are few programs with a Cinema 4D importer.

regards prixat

Maxon, Autodesk etc makes money selling(now renting) an entire 3DCC application.

NOT selling canned content for base figures that come with the program.

One does not need a "Cinema 4D importer" because ,like Blender,Maya,Max one can create content in C4D and export it to industry standard formats Like FBX.obj,Alembic

From the perpective of the Daz business model it is a huge failure that only some small number of poser users remain fixated on importing the genesis figures for various reasons.

Daz depends one people getting excited about those lovely Genesis Figures and then flocking to the Daz commercial store to buy content for them.

This did not really happen ,in any major way, in the Professional CG ,film &Gaming communities because they prefer to work within thier Custom Character eco-systems without having to muck about with kiddie toys Like Daz studio to get a genesis figure into their professional 3DCC pipelines via some 'DSON" format.

Particularly in light of the fact that Genesis needs to be connected to its massive Daz studio Data folder for its full functionality and Daz studio installations are NOT scalable for large team projects that Game/ film company pipelines require.

Yes, yes, very distinguished...you're a professional CGI person...we all see your website link. If you think iclone is professional software...(snickers)...okay then. I'll just let you roll around in that one. And if you think DAZ's system is all that, you should look around iclone's - because they charge you separate for every darn little plugin and add-on they have. Hundreds and hundreds of dollars by the time you even get their basic system up and running. It's almost obnoxiously confusing to say the least. But this thread is about the death of DSON - not the gaming industry and not iclone. It's not an argument about who makes DSON or any of that. It's a formal rant about why it's bad for Poser to drop compatibility with DAZ products. But of course no one listens. No one listened to me in the beta team at Smith either. I quite in protest and I was right and P11 bombed horribly and they were going to just let the program die. It was that bad. So no, don't listen to me. Insult me for saying the clear facts and obvious things. Berate me for being old and tell me to get over it and move along. Old people have this thing called experience. You'd be shocked out how valuable it is. We don't just know history - we lived it - we made it - and we might just know a thing or two more than you do. Learn to stop and listen. You younger generations read a blog for two minutes and think you've got Ph.D's. You're all stuck in this imaginary world where you think your opinion matters and your knowledge is all encompassing. I know my opinion is blowing in the wind and I am far from knowing much about anything. So when I do open my mouth, it's with 25 years of Poser knowledge and experience. What have the rest of you got? Exactly. A website does not an important CGI artist make. I'm no famous artist. I'm nobody. But I have been using Poser for a long, long time. Longer than any of you most likely.