Forum: Poser 12


Subject: The unmentioned death of DSON importation...

JAG opened this issue on Nov 17, 2020 ยท 144 posts


JAG posted Sun, 22 November 2020 at 5:18 AM

ssgbryan posted at 5:13AM Sun, 22 November 2020 - #4405344

JAG posted at 9:56PM Fri, 20 November 2020 - #4405306

Clearly you simply don't have the comprehensive skill set to understand the point of this thread. I don't have the will or patients to explain economics and business to you. Take a class. I'm not whining about my own decisions. My DAZ content still works just fine - in DAZ studio and my older Poser editions. I'm pointing out that limiting compatibility is not good for Poser. DAZ and Iclone are both expanding their compatibility features and pipelines (plugins and bridges) while Poser is continuing to consolidate and cut-off any and all extra features and plugins. I mean they literally just upended every Python plugin for the program to date. In simpler terms, Poser is going the OPPOSITE direction of every other 3D developer. Doesn't that strike you as rather dumb? Especially when other companies are succeeding and Poser is being dumped by Smith due to poor sales? Economics man...economics!

Kid, your understanding of software development (and associated software legal issues) is non-existent. And yes, you are whining about your decisions.
I'M A KID NOW? REALLY? INTERESTING. WELL GRAM-PAH YOUR DEGREE IS NICE BUT IT DOES NOT TRUMP MY MASTERS IN HISTORY. SORRY BUT WHILE ITS NOT QUITE THE BUSINESS DEGREE I KNOW IT STILL ENTITLES ME TO KNOW HOW TO READ AND RESEARCH. BUSINESS IS OPINION.

I have a business degree too. I suspect I have run larger organizations than you have. I know I have been involved in larger software development projects than you have. BTW, Economics isn't science - it is opinion, with numbers attached.

To review..... Python 2 is dead - there is nothing you can do about that. FBX is the future, as is PBR. I would prefer that Bondware go will a full Cycles render engine, (so we can use those sweet, sweet 16Gb RX 6000 series GPUs) but we aren't there yet.

YEP...AND STILL WAITING...AND WAITING...AND OH THERE WENT DAZ...CRAP!

The DSON importer won't be updated for the same reason Apple refused to sign off on Nvidia 2000 series drivers for OSX. It is about company politics. It isn't a technical issue. For a closer analogy - See OS/2 and Win32s compatibility.

ON THIS I MIGHT ACTUALLY AGREE.

If you want to use your DS content in Poser, you can (I do it all the time - I have spent thousands on DS content myself - filling spaces that Poser vendors have chosen to ignore). Of course, It will take a little bit of work on your part, but that is the case with any 3d asset that isn't native to a program.

If that is too much work, remember, Poser does have a Make Art button.....

Or just go use Daz Studio. Just don't forget that:

  1. You will need to spend about $750 in 3rd party scripts to reach rough compatibility. (That number was NOT picked out of a hat.)
  2. DS is still single-threaded. Have fun dealing with every function hanging off of the main thread.
  3. You will be busy for a while trying to figure out how to use their new thingie (filament) with their render engine (and paying for the privilege).

ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. LINK ME TO WHERE IT STATES YOU NEED $750 WORTH OF CONTENT TO GET ROUGH COMPATIBILITY? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ICLONE? I WOULD AGREE THERE. DAZ DOES NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING OUT OF THE BOX AND IT ACTUALLY DOES MORE THAN POSER CURRENTLY. IT STILL SUCKS AND I HATE THE UI AND TREE DESIGN BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH PRICES. I HAVE NOT A SINGLE SCRIPT PLUGGED INTO MINE OTHER THAN DSON WHICH IS ALSO FREE OR WAS FOR ME. SINGLE THREAD MAYBE BUT THE IRAY STILL RENDERS FASTER THAN FIREFLY. I HAVE TESTED THAT LITTLE QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES. I STILL DON'T GET NUMBER THREE. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS PAID RENDER ENGINE?