I submitted a tech request that I found a few minutes ago in a spam folder on the email server. They said the same thing. I should have looked there first. Victoria 5 is basic unless you buy add-ons also. A lot of the lingo gets confusing sometimes like "pro version", you're talking about the figure not Poser 12, "pro", I don't want to even get going about the confusing Genesis line with cross compatibility, I asked sales if they had a chart or something detailing all the features of each Genesis figure, stock without being altered because some artists can do amazing things that almost turn them into to a whole new figure. I'll get the "pro version" of LaFemme and LaHomme, the characters, not the software program as I've read there is no "pro version" it's just Poser 12 however buying the character textures that will match seamlessly with the originals already in Poser 12 for them is kind of like a "pro" version upgrade if you think about it. Thanks for the help.