I think Mike-01 is a tremendus leap above the regular Poser 4 male. I find the face is very morphable for creating different characters. My main art interest leans towards fantasy, Science Fiction, and Horror, so, I would have prefered a more morphable body, but addons like Massive Mike and Muscle Mike fill that void pretty well for me. I've also seen some amazing faces created with the orignal Poser 4 Male utilizing morph targets but the body, no matter what you do never seems to look right. Of coarse if your character id fully clothed, thats not an issue. Just my two cents, Thorgrim