When threads go massively off-topic...yes, they do. When people troll someone or something to death...yes they do. When people post flame-bait just to goad others into warring...yes they do. I was not being a jerk in my initial post. I said nothing rude, obstinate, or even untrue in my first post. I even made it a point to say that I wouldn't respond to trolling. And yet that was and is, immediately what erupted. Trolling...pure and simple. I have been harassed for defending my original statement and contradicting inaccurate comments attached to my thread. Now you're insinuating I'm a jerk. Why am I the jerk? I posted a simple and very important bit of information regarding Poser 12 in the Poser 12 forum and walked away. When I return a week later to see if anyone had added anything pertinent to the post I find that nothing but "jerks" (your word not mine) have hijacked the thread posting off-site links (that are not relevant), copyright infringing artwork which they did not have rights to alter, people twisting my words to make it seem like I said something I did not, and people talking nonsense that was not true, and finally...pure trolls harassing everyone in general (red smiley guy you know who you are). But somehow I'm the jerk for stepping in and pointing out all the trolling material and attempting to counter it. Then when I'm attacked directly, I'm supposed to ignore it and walk off? No. I am allowed to defend myself and my position as well as my post. I'm not attacking in anyone else's thread - only my own and only in defense of myself and the topic I presented. I am at this point tempted to ask for it to be locked. I'm sure the moderators will get around to it at some point. And it all starts with people (trolls) posting off-topic commentary. Why is it so bloody hard for people to focus on a topic and discuss it? Why does everyone have to go off on tangents and screw with things? If you've got something to say - great! - go start your own thread. Say whatever you want there. More power to you. But don't come post on MY THREAD...twist my words and add nonsensical, uninformed garbage to it. I posted my thread to inform the users who were interested. I won't sit back and allow that message to be dumped on by trolls without saying something. Which is what I've done - said something - in the form of calling you all out on your posts. No one...NOT ONE OF YOU...has bothered as of yet to actually dispute or contradict my points about your posts. You people cannot debate professionally to save your lives. If I dispute your position - present evidence to back it up. Point out mistakes in my own position. That's debate. That's how it happens...how it works. When I state something contrary to your position you don't whine about me using capital letters or tell me to just suck it up and accept it. That isn't debate. It isn't constructive. So I can't debate with you people. You all go childish and troll me. So pardon me if I gouge you right back. I don't believe in high roads. I believe in giving what you get. Be professional and I'll be professional back. Troll me like a six year old and I'll remind you why you should have stayed under the porch. I will not tamp down my own limited intellect to make you feel good about your inadequacies. Grow up and stop calling people names.

Definition of jerk (Entry 1 of 3) 1a: an annoyingly stupid or foolish person

b: an unlikable person especially : one who is cruel, rude, or small-minded a selfish jerk

That word does not apply to me. Small-minded especially. Arrogant, defiant, intolerable, obnoxious, rude - lots of words might apply. I know what I am. But again, I respond in like fashion. Be nice to me and show respect and don't pollute my posts and I won't be such a person towards you. You people bring much of this on yourselves. I wasn't even going to reply on this thread originally until I saw how horridly trolled it was. Now I'm defending myself and the thread. If that offends you...the fact that I won't let you all hijack the topic and the thread without calling you out on it - well that seems like a problem on your end and not mine. If you can't post and not handle responses, then don't post. If you don't like me and what I have to say - get out of my thread and stop antagonizing me. I was here first. I started this thread. It was important and not intended to engage a flame war. It was relevant to the community and to Poser 12 users specifically. Nothing any of you people have tacked onto this thread has had a bloody single relevant point to do with that original post and topic. Not one. I take that back...Nagra actually did. The FBX discussion was somewhat relevant to the DSON issue as it can be construed as a work-around for the dysfunction of DSON in Poser 12. But of course somebody comes in, mars his image, and reposts it to be smarmy - so even Nagra got trolled. This thread is a joke at this point. This is why Poser is dying. No one with any professional ability to have discourse exists here anymore. It's just a lost cause. I try to share information and all I get is a flame war started by people with nothing better to do than flame and troll. Fighting back does not make me a jerk or a troll. I respond in kind. I was not a troll or a jerk to start with. I meet trollery with trollery.

I hope they do lock this thread. It will validate my points...proving it has degenerated into oblivion as a result of trolls marring it with off-topic flaming. Good show. I sometimes wonder if you people don't do this on purpose. If you can't counter an argument, you do your best to have the debate trampled and obliterated. If you can't win, you all go scorched Earth. Again...good show. My compliments on the effectiveness of your trolling methodology. Unfortunately I don't just bark and run. I growl at the fence till my master kicks me. I do not back down. I do not say things that are not true nor things I cannot prove. When I speak it is with confidence that I am right. If that intimidates you, then again the problem is on your end, not mine.

randym77 posted at 11:42PM Thu, 31 December 2020 - #4409113

They usually don't lock threads for going off topic. They might move them to a different forum.

If threads are locked, it's usually because someone is being a jerk.