Phil! You're a sweetheart!!! But these models were made by Architect students... and were copyright free when I found them. I managed to convert them to a readable format (made sure I made both an .obj file and a S3S file). My problem is that their materials did not convert! One of the models is the operahouse in Sidney. You can imagine how many hundreds of pieces it consists of. Btw... :) there was also a model of an old Norwegian logged storehouse, - which I find "udderly" exciting, - as I am a Norwegian "stranded" in Florida. I'm working on the texture file for that one, - and plan on making it a free poser prop when I can figure this thigies out!! :) Britt