Hello hborre. That was a splash of cold water! I went back to my P11.3 (.818) and yes the basic genesis character did load eventually but she was operating in cold treacle and if you took liberties the program froze and needed ctrl.alt.del for a restart. Genesis 2 produced a progress bar that stopped at twenty seconds whereupon, again, everything froze!. A lot of the older, predson daz assets I have work fine,. but so much of the new stuff is based on genesis 8 which puts it out of reach. Annoying!. I'd gladly buy new daz products but it would be pointless. So we're both losing out. And I still do not like DAZ Studio!