I agree on that it is much up to the artist, but there are huge differenties among the software. I make technical stuff, since Im horrible at making people. (Somebody that would want to cooperate?) Since I only have the V dE 2 free version, Im not even close to make the work that I got on my mind. I have never used Bryce, so Im not very familier with it. But I realy think that the limits in the cheaper software, makes it difficult to make the great work. I still cant bend a pipe. It maybe dont sound like much, but that is something that makes my head spin and create frustration. I could do that in the corel draw 7 3d thingy, except I cant used those in V dE. I know that other software can create haze and mist, so that its possible to see the lightbeams. Both studio1 and stage9 would have looked totaly different with lightbeams crisscrossing the rooms. Making it look more real. I created about 10000 raindrops in an attempt to make it work. The rendering : time left 7h30. I tried to use smoke. Every thing turned white. lol. Do I sound frustrated? I realy am! Just load up stuff. Nothing to be afraid of. Can it be worse then mine? ;) Ses sikkert senere Alekssander