I see what you mean Guitta :). As far as the one with the rain, I was just playing around...I was watching TechTV and there was a Photoshop guy on there doing rain...LOL. I also know that I would like Vue 4 because I beta tested it too just like you but haven't gotten it yet because of my own personal reasons. I only have to disagree with you on one thing. I think the postworked image has lots of depth. I don't think it looks flat at all :). But, different strokes for different folks, I guess :). That's what makes us all unique :). Laurie