Well, I hope I didn't come off as an anti-credit nazi. Not my intention. I guess I was just getting at what traveller said, time is better spent creating. (By the way, God Bless Traveller for wonderful Morphs and tutorials.) Personally, I post my creations exclusively to Renderosity. This place has become my new internet home. I know I have hit every sight, every link, everything that is here to see I've seen. I guess I feel that it stands to reason that everything I use, I've found here. Sorry if this is a oft-horse-corpse-beating topic, haven't seen it in here being only a month or so here. Why isn't MicroGames link posted over here----> on Web resources? -Darth_Logice