This is an example... I know it has been done 1000 times probably but I don' have it anywhere I can find. To be honest, I don' have many of the downloadable pose libraries installed because I need to check their licenses (I only install stuff in poser I can use for commercial work - it just saves a lot of trouble later on). This pose if she was on a hard floor (I will be putting in a ground plane) for vicky. Her hands crossed at the wrist behind her. I want to do a close up of the hands, so that's important. The head tilt might be a problen> *sigh* Anyway - if you want to do one or point me at one that would be great! I'll probably have to head over and see what Daz has as well.