Y-Phil posted at 4:17PM Sat, 24 April 2021 - #4417595

There is something that I really don't understand... But please, see no aggressiveness on my part

Poser is dead, or dying... Ok, and now? Why are you all still here debating that fact?

I'm 61, and my everyday job keeps me occupied nearly 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, and on week-ends I have a lot to do far from my computer. Poser is fine for me: it's a hobby, and it works without crashing every 2 or 3 hours such as daz. Actually, the Daz company has enough ressources and financial power to make a perfect The Studio program, but 10 years after, their V4.xxxxxxxx is still making angry a lot of people, as they seem more interested in crypto-what-ever-stuff

Their G8 family looks awesome, indeed, but Daz refuses that the simple users we are to export a decently subD-ed character. Their choice? ok, I respect, and I'm staying away of their world... Especially since any Vic4 ported to Saha-16 bends perfectly. Furthermore, I have enough clothes, hairs, etc... and there are enough vendors creating items for both worlds.

All this is perfect for me, as it's a hobby. Of course I'm not a professional. And that's the reason why I will not invest time in Blender, and I will not invest a single cent in the professional programs that have been cited above. They are not for customers like me.

Someone explained that the younger generation are really tech savvy. Yes. And they are often in a hurry. Learning Blender? it comes a long time after they have been disappointed by Daz or Poser. and not everybody has the money to invest in iClone, and whatever. And even more after a "covid year" that has put a strong end to a world that was running faster and faster in a dead-end

Let me repeat it: I respect the needs of the professionals. Really. But we have inherited of a world in which the lifespan of the products sold is shorter and shorter. Something must be changed, in depth. Our economic model has lived, and is dying because of a really small virus.

I don't know where all this will push us all, but one thing is sure: if Poser dies, this will be the end of the 3D world for me, and for many people, from what I'm gessing thourgh what I can read on social medias. Oh... we are a really small market, and it doesn't matter?

Fine. So, no need to repeat what I read about Poser dying, since Daz has decided to follow a new, incompatible way, with their Genesis family, 10 years ago. And Poser is still there, dying.

Y-Phil, you're arguments make even less sense to me than Wolf's. Why are either of you here? Wolf's never really explained that to my satisfaction, but I figure he's here so long I guess he thinks he's got squatter's rights.

But you think Poser's dead or dying, and you're using a figure that for all intents and purposes is about 20 years old. Apparently, it can bend well, and that's all you need. I don't get it, but hey, you do you.

Wolf, you seem to think that everyone's all set to abandon Poser and move to either Iclone or Studio by next week. That's been your same argument for at least ten years now. Hasn't happened yet. I still think Poser's a good program. I laid out my thinking of what their biggest flaw seems to be. They develop a feature up to a point then it seems they lose interest in developing it any further. Look at Studio. Except for the figure, Poser had each of Studio's features first, but they stalled. Poser's done some minor tinkering around the edges, but Studio has literally blown past them with every feature. Yeah, I still think that if Poser would fix and IMPROVE it;s feature sets, they'd recapture some of users they lost to Studio. If they could figure out a way to make Genesis work natively in Poser so much the better, but frankly, that's a side point for me.