Rhia474, I have to first apologise because I didn't notice the highlighting which certainly made all the difference. It doesn't help my not having 20/20 vision any longer. Had I noticed the highlights I would not have had to ask for more assistance. Next I have to thank RedPhantom and NikKelly for the clarity of their explanations. I have managed to actually do a render which I pure rubbish, but as its my first ever Poser image, its a kind of Landmark. Thank you all for the help, much appreciated...