primorge posted at 6:03 PM Sun, 31 October 2021 - #4429648

[on genitals]

Not a priority. Simply a curious omission on an indy open source figure from a progressive content creator. Very few use PE One X to make Poser P*rn besides, near as I can tell Genesis and DS has that market sinched judging from my observations at the other R site.

Well, back when I first made Antonia, I wasn't planning on using her for pron, and I got a little bit too obsessed with keeping the poly count low (see also the weird eye and breast topologies). So that explains the lack of detail in her "swimsuit area." :-)

Anatomical correctness would also be good reason, particularly coming from an artist (ODF) who obviously appreciates nude pin up style renders. If you're going to do something why not do it to it's fullest from the inception, I can only see that options would be an advantage to the figure. Plus, with the method I described above in my original post, I'm not seeing how it would inhibit or handicap any other feature of the figure... Or even really bring it into some puritanical realm of "prurience"... and the additional modeling is really negligible, and I know this from experience.

Yeah, even though I have no ambitions to make her fully ready for the other R site, I do think it would be nice if she were ready for closeups and had the potential for some shape variations. Perhaps not a big priority, but it would be fun.

Anyway, was just a suggestion, It's ODF's time commitment after all... if thats what you're suggesting with 'higher priority', priorities which are actually only really known by ODF himself.

Yes, we already have a functioning figure, so I'll be prioritizing features I think are fun to do and/or learn, plus ones that I am or specific users are missing in the figure, and deprioritizing features that are tedious to get right and ones that we think will make her popular but are not really that keen on ourselves. I got huffed at in this thread at some point for using the phrase "pearl before the swine," which I admit was unnecessarily derogatory, but I don't really have the ambition to create a figure for everyone. If Antonia had just a few happy users who are willing to do a little bit of extra work in order to create or adapt content, that would be plenty.

In the end does ODF really want to spend the, potentially, next couple/few years redesigning Antonia? Especially considering that he worked a long time on the original Antonia mesh before even revealing it to the Poser community. And here we are a decade on now. From my personal perspective a redesigned Antonia would be great, but the original figure is freely redesignable by anyone who chooses to do so. I've changed a few things on her myself and eventually plan on doing more. This hobby is slow going when full time work is a factor, there's many ideas, and frankly we're getting on in years, the effects of which probably many of us are starting to feel, ODF included.

Hey, who you calling old? :-D Seriously though, that's spot on. I really like Antonia as a figure, and I can see myself gradually adding on to and improving her over the coming years just for the fun of it, but it is a hobby and, at least as long as I still have a day job, should not turn into work.

I think the long term plan, insofar as there is one, would be to start with add-ons that work on the current figure, with an eye on future compatibility, and in the meantime compile a list of changes that I find important for Antonia 2.0.

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.