Now this was a surprise. I was wondering if I could find a donor for long drapey sleeves, and I conformed Furisode for Genesis 2 Female to La Femme. Now, this is a DS-only product that I exported from DS as a cr2 and converted it to Poser native using Netherworks Creator's Toybox (there are threads somewhere about how to do this). So it is not a DSON-running product. Anyway, shifting the hip forward and up and doing some minor arm posing, as we did with native V4 dresses, and bingo, it worked great! Do NOT copy joint zones from LF. When I pose LF, the garment follows nicely, and you can bend and twist the abdomen with no poke through. I did test a DSON Cheongsam and got similar results.