adp001 posted at 10:06 PM Mon, 29 August 2022 - #4443506

Do the lips remain a separated part of the UV map or are they now part of "Face"?

Working again recently with Antonia in texturing I'd say the lips are very difficult to work with. There's very little face skin region extending out from the lip part and the corresponding area of the face texture has a different texel scale from the lips. Very tricky, not as much if you do everything in a 3d painting software, but very difficult in a 2d image editor where one might do finer adjustments or just moving of texture elements or clone stamping. It's a big stumbling block that deters one from doing something that would be a rather straight forward thing if the lips were part of the face. Very odd choice there, makes me wonder who's idea that was.

There also appears to be asymmetry in the face UVs around the eyes where the rim of the lids join the inner socket. At first I thought it was simply the face map not perfectly center X on the UV tile, my thinking here because painting an eyeliner on one eye, a very tight to the lid rim liner, does not copy flip horizontal exactly right to the other side. Actually, relative to that kind of flip in that area for that kind of makeup, it's way off. You can do this with most centered Poser face UVs. I then tried doing it in Mudbox with the brushes set to symmetry X and had a similar problem doing precision work accurately with symmetry. I think actually the problem might be twofold here. I think there might be a bit of stretching or distortion in the lid rim UVs and a bit of a uncentered on the tile problem in the placement. No offense to whoever UV mapped Antonia but there's some problems... Which really I'm surprised slipped through the QA process, or maybe it's just no one looked as closely at the minutiae. This would explain why the eyeliner makeups created by saintfox aren't very close and tight but more raccoon/Smokey eyed variety, or that's my theory there.