I'm not sure why the server for Critical Depth is still working. We were all sent an e-mail that the server had mechanical problems, the worst being that the ftp part wouldn't work at all and so the server was going to be pulled on Sept. 20th. I assummed it had been, and since situations in real life are very pressing now, we figured that when things calmed down, we could get our friend Viomar to move the rest of our site to A1host. Verdie happened to click on a link to our site at 3DCommune and lo and behold the site was still there and still receiving hits. Not gonna complain too much because at least people can still have access to seeing our galleries and such. But I've repeatedly now tried the ftp and it still isn't operational so I can'd download our site to my computer to back it up. I have an older copy of our site which Viomar sent us but there's been three updates that I remember since that copy was made. It appears that the only way I can get at my site is to manually download pages and graphics through my browser. Uuurgh, if I get the time, that's what I'll do. We both just think it's mystifying that the server is still in operation and have heard nothing from Critical Depth. Would be nice if they got the ftp fixed and we didn't have to move at all....but maybe it's best to have the site all in one place. Liz Pope Dreamspinner Inc.