AND..........how could I ever forget Stormrage's hair!! http://poserunderground.virtualave.net/ Even doing this image as a tongue-in-cheek, you can see how things can easily be neglected. I spent much more time searching for credits than doing the actual image. I DON'T promote neglecting all the creators that have made Poser so much more powerfull and pleasing...I just think we should all just enjoy it and if you think so much of your creations, then just sell them...don't "give" them away with 37 contitions. Foxhollow