They're not rubbish really. Typical panties that need their weights tweaked and a bit of fitting touch up. I considered retopoing them but they're unwelded at body part groups (no biggie, but for future reference but I think you know this now) and asymmetrical (a big biggie) and quads derived from tris (rather than from a quad conversion algorithm such as zremesher or the like) so they're a bit fussy on the center loop bit. I appreciate your forthrightness in sharing them. The time it would take to fix them altogether wouldn't be much of a time savings unfortunately, looks like I'll have to go it alone on the panties front (lol) until I have the time and inclination to do so. Thanks for the thoughtfulness odf.