yeah, had to copy V4 from an older runtime and it works.  after a few computers and Poser upgrades original installers are long gone. M4 is a recent purchase. installed it manually and also through DIM. no luck either way.

But, have found that if selecting "Show hidden parameters" the FBMs show up for individual parts. can build a particular body style by setting the style on each body part... just takes awhile.

thanks for all y'alls replies.. Happy Thanksgiving !