ssgbryan posted at 2:06 PM Sun, 26 February 2023 - #4457012

Until there is a 1-click firefly-superfly conversion process for ALL materials, superfly is irrelevant for a lot of users.

From my perspective - This isn't Poser 13. 

It is Poser 12.1.

I agree. When SuperFly came out Poser shot itself in the foot and lost a big opportunity.

Poser depends upon external content and so much of it was shipped before SuperFly existed.

Users tried rendering their pre-existing content in SuperFly and were met with "demon eyes", "skin like coal" or at best a figure that looked like she was wrapped in cling-film.

Yes the very technical users could manually fix these things but it is a tedious job with so many materials and so many character sets, and the material room is an un-useable nightmare for most. So they don't bother, they stick to FireFly.

Some top vendors like SV7 released characters with SuperFly materials included - but these invariably looked worse than the SSS materials they shipped that worked in both FireFly and SuperFly.

I find that SV7 SSS materials render even nicer in SuperFly than Firefly, but that's partly as I like a good but not excessive degree of specularity on skin to give extra depth to renders.

For other vendors like Tempesta3D I find their SSS materials look far worse in SuperFly as the Specularity is so high, so have to manually amend these if I want to use SuperFly - and it's very painful. 

Poser will never compete with the big players for the most technical of users so they should focus on its users needs - ease of use. 

SuperFly is a powerful disaster to date.