Well  These artists were making great looking Poser characters, to bad they jumped over to DS also the " Better La Femme " did not seem to get there interests. Stil they done great works and still do for the Genesis. My personal meaning stands, They do not look like they were made 15 years ago !  Just because you wish having a new flagship does not mean that all the other stuff is not worth it any longer. First of all you need to bring out something that beats the older stuff then the discourse might change a little.