AcePyx posted at 9:21 PM Tue, 11 April 2023 - #4461856

ChromeStar posted at 7:39 PM Tue, 11 April 2023 - #4461836

Poser 12 felt like a pretty significant upgrade to me. The speed improvements alone were worth the price of admission. Improvements in material assignment. The addition of PrincipledBsdf. Those are things I take advantage of every time I use the software. It's also been pretty interesting to see functionality added over the course of the release cycle. That increased visibility about what the team is actually working on is what does not match up with the comments above.

The speed was a game changer, but a hugely belated one.

So...  the updates to that point were not sufficient, and Poser 12 was the one that delivered the important thing? That's the opposite of the claim above.

Principled came in 70% through 12's lifecycle. It was welcome, but simplified the technology that already existed.

I never felt like Superfly was accessible to me before Poser 12. Yeah, it was there, yeah, I tried it, but it was too complicated to pick up easily and too slow to be worth spending that effort. Both of those things changed in 12. Maybe I could have done everything in 11, but maybe I could also have invested in a nice set of colored pencils and learned to draw.

But a commenter on my vid made the observation that the underlying technology has been stagnant for a decade, and by and large, I don't much disagree with that notwithstand superfly in 2015. Innovations rather than streamlines have been awfully thin on the ground wouldn't you say?

It has been stagnant, that's absolutely true. And Poser 12 is when that started to change. Cycles was updated, and then updated again in 13. Python was updated (for all the good and bad).

The claim above was:

Only those, who are still on Poser 10 and lower really benfit from going up to Poser 13.

Anything starting with Poser 11 feels just like Service updates.

And that's just the opposite of my experience. I went from 11 to 12 and it was a huge step forward. It was the earlier updates that felt slow and incremental. There is plenty left to do, and there is a limit to how quickly they can iterate based on the available budget, but I feel like the progress they are making is a big deal.