Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Playing with AI and Poser

3D-Mobster opened this issue on Jun 21, 2023 ยท 18 posts


3D-Mobster posted Sat, 01 July 2023 at 3:50 PM

hornet3d posted at 4:24 AM Tue, 27 June 2023 - #4468757

All sounds too much like a 'Make Art' button to me, so I will stick with Poser and the only AI I will use is in some of the post work like anti noise.


If you just want random stuff then I would agree, but if you are looking for something more unique or specific you are going to work for it :)

This is an example (Using Stable diffusion):

So say I wanted a man standing in a forest and just write this:

Prompt:

" Man with short black hair wearing a black shirt and denim pants is standing casually on an old dirt road surrounded by a dense forest"

Then this is what I get.

it's not extremely terrible but still, there is a lot wrong with him. And you have to fix that through writing. So I adjust the prompt:

"Man with short black hair wearing a black shirt and jeans is standing casually on an old dirt road surrounded by a dense forest, (Super realistic), dof:0.3, Natural sky, (Full body view)"

And then it gives me this:


That is pretty damn awful.

So having worked with it and changed things around and doing a lot of renders, this is what I ended up with and didn't wanted to work with it anymore:

"(Extremely details),(Extremely high quality), ((Extremely realistic hair)),(diffuse lighting:1.2),(Very realistic),(dof:0.2), (accurate reflections). (accurate eye reflections),(Natural colors), 54yo man tough with short hair and long beard wearing a(white stained shirt):0.5 and jeans standing casually, (background old extremely realistic dirt road surrounded by a dense super detailed forest),

(Randomize body view) , (Professional composition)"

It's still not the best, but a lot better. 

But you are working with two types of prompts, one positive which is the one I have posted above and then a negative one which tells it all the things it shouldn't do. Which end up looking like this:

"3d max, grotesque, desaturated, painting, cartoon, B&W, deformed, unrealistic face, unrealistic eyes, ((Deformed mouth)), deformed hands, blur, incorrect number of limbs,(disfigured, painting, cgi, illustration, photoshop, photoshopped, video game, 3d render, watermarks, bad art, Octane, multiple figures, duplicate, body out of frame, face out of frame, cloned face, weird colors, disfigured, bad anatomy, bad proportions, poorly drawn hands, extra fingers, malformed limbs, missing arms, mutated hands, extra limbs, missing legs, extra legs, poorly drawn feet, ugly, cross-eye, poorly drawn face, tattoos, text, writing:1), inaccurate teeth, inaccurate lips, inaccurate mouth, pixelated, low resolution, artificial lighting, oversaturated colors, flat textures, incorrect shadows, unrealistic reflections, unnatural proportions, distorted geometry, inconsistent scale, poor composition, repetitive patterns, lack of depth, excessive noise, fake-looking foliage, unconvincing weather effects, synthetic textures, unconvincing skin tones, rigid facial expressions, inaccurate object scaling, unconvincing environmental interactions, ((man not having a calm look on his face))"

And the way you write it, meaning both words used and the order matters, I would best describe it as talking to someone who is extremely stupid and can't figure out to do anything on their own. :)

There are places like Prompthunt that I used above which are slightly easier to get you a quick image, but it suffers from the same issue as Stable diffusion does which is that it is insanely difficult to control stuff. There are some tools to help you, but still its limited I would say.

It is extremely funny, but it is not just click to win unless you just want random stuff, which is fine if that is what one is after. 

But if you haven't tried it, I would recommend you give it a try it is not as easy as one would think :D