All the information you provide is good. But if you don't mind, the issue here is the confusion about using Vicki 2 or the Vicki 2 maps. I got into this map thing awhile ago when I bought the DAZ castle and stage. They came with no textures, so I bought the maps as well. I thought I read somewhere that we can click on the map and that would actually load the subject in mind (castle, Vicki, etc.) I asked in the Renderosity Poser forum for confirmation and received it. So when I ran into the Vicki and Mike maps (Zygote people as opposed to their presence in DAZ people), I've been using the maps instead of the people themselves. I really wonder why this confusion exists at all. Why have Mike and Vicki in Zygot People and DAZ People? What is the concept of using maps vs using characters? Do we load the character (or props) first, then click on the maps? I guess we don't use the maps alone, since they have no real substance (morphs, etc.) I've been blissfully rendering what I thought were some half-decent pictures, only to realize I have apparently only been working with the skin textures, and not the bodies themselves. So please, let us focus on the issue at hand. Help me clarify all this. Thanks for all the input you've supplied to date.