AmbientShade posted at 9:12 PM Thu, 9 November 2023 - #4477487

JustBeCause posted at 6:03 PM Wed, 8 November 2023 - #4477459

For me as for creating poser models on daily basis, there are two things that could be quiet important, preventing having to use P11 for the creations of the models and fully depend on P11 making it even possible to make Poser models. 

2. I do not know if it could be possible, but as we know almost nothing is impossible if there is a will. Making Poser backward compatible with Py 2.7 so that the older essential scripts can be used as there are no replacements for these in P12 and 13 and there will probably never be any as poser seems to have gone through a full reset. Start from scratch. This is for a creator the main reason why he depends on P11  as allot of the scripts developed over decades are essential for a good model creation.

So as Creator somehow just stuck in P11 for rigging and building and may be using P13 just to make the Promo renders or adapting the materials so that they work for the future users of poser. 

What "essential scripts" are available for P11 regarding figure creation are you referring to here? Can you be specific?

I sure can here a little sample of what is missing after the launch of P11 Bondware as also the PY system got broken after the update to 11.2 and Py can't be used without any  3rd Party Hack.

There is allot more  then just helpers for creations ! thousands of created Packages not working correctly anymore as they have Integrated Py scripts, these are still sold in the store. But for the end user a real Dilemma.

Lets just pick 'ShaderWorks', 'Advanced Shaders' that is supporting .sh8 and generates automatically 2ond skin assignments quiet some Vendors were using this method. Or all the broken Material Packages. The List is very long 

For end users ... are you able to create V4 WM in Poser 11.2 up ? are you able to create V4 SASHA ? can you use the AS fantastic packages without restrictions and features ?

Sorry but I actually do not even know where to beginn with what got lost ! And yes allot are essential for a good workflow unless you want to pass years building up a good complex standalone until it is ready for a release. But customers will not have the patience to wait for years or month. Productivity is the Key and this is what all these Addons were doing. 

This is just a tiny list of things that got lost ...... A drop on a hot Stone.