Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Poser feature dev & improvement wishlist

PoserWorld2019 opened this issue on Nov 08, 2023 ยท 73 posts


3D-Mobster posted Fri, 24 November 2023 at 1:13 PM

dreamcutter posted at 11:24 AM Fri, 24 November 2023 - #4478098

What do you mean that Poser needs AI integration? It's confusing because its a human artist tool, generally machine learning does not need software user interfaces or applications to create 3d art renders.  If not in the actual auto creation of 3d renders, perhaps you want the Poser scene and material creation to have some sort of AI assist?  To accomplish this privacy and other IP considerations important to Artists must be carefully weighed  as AI learning can be locally evolved so YOUR application techniques become more intuitive over time,  or client/server based (cloud) based where user data is shared with AI networks so that advancements evolve rapidly and broadly with other peoples techniques analyzed and adapted.... do we want that - would it ruin art through technique hominization?

The from my understanding of the Blender script, is that it is able to approximate a figures Pose from a representative 2D image. Not certain why/what "AI" has to do with that but it could be a programmed capability rather than learned on the fly. Is AI even necessary in this capability, as MOCAP exists.

Please provide some use case or examples of the specific AI capabilities in Poser you are seeking?  

If we look at some common issues, not only in Poser but in general when using 3d applications. Everything takes a huge amount of work, even the most simple things. One thing to keep in mind when reading this is that these technologies keep improving. 

Clothing

Being able to get an AI to simulate clothing is much faster than doing it dynamically through the cloth room, the AI doesn't care about collision in the same way and can apply realistic clothing to anything, animals, humans, monsters you name it. This also applies to animations.

If you look at a video like this:

AI to video

Why would you need to Mocab anything if Poser could hook up to your webcam and the AI transfer your movement to the character?

Hair

I think everyone knows that hair in 3D is a nightmare, it always looks stiff and wrong and making dynamic hair takes a really long time and is not easy and we don't even have the tools in Poser to do that well. AI would have no issues with that, especially if one imagines that in Poser you simply write what type of hair you want, or you find an image on the internet and throw it in and the AI copy it to the model. or you can control it using very simple controls compared to now.

Color and decals 

This is something that we currently have to do in textures, yet it would be pretty cool if you could get the AI to apply different colors or patterns in post, maybe make the clothing look torn or worn etc. Apply mud if the character is walking on that surface. Rather than having to go in and create new textures from scratch each time.

And you could add fog, smoke, fire, water, rain, snow etc. in post as well rather than having to render them, which takes a very long time in general. 

Sound and voice

This is a new tool that has gone into Beta (created by 2 people) and shows what you can do with voice, then one could imagine that you take that sound file, throw in Poser and the AI can animate the face on your character saying whatever you told it to.

AI any voice

Building scene assets

These are just some examples of how it could be used, you could also get the AI to create the part of the scene that is just background clutter, so if your scene is about a man driving a car through a city, then you just need the car and the man and the AI will add all the other things in the background based on what you have told it. This is a common issue in general when doing 3d, the majority of things in a scene are not important, it is simply there to not make the scene look boring. It would make working in Poser a lot faster.

Generate 3D objects

This is well under way and has improved quite a lot in the last few months so it probably won't take all that long before we see it.

Final thoughts

Basically, the possibilities based on what is going on are so crazy, that I wouldn't be surprised if in 5-10 years you simply generate a whole Hollywood-quality movie based on what you want to see, and the AI will write and direct everything and just generate it for you. But there are so many options here, that I think it would be stupid of Poser to at least not embrace it and integrate it into the software as best as they can. Whether they are big enough to keep up I have no clue, because as we know there is being spent so much money by huge companies in AI at the moment that it is insane, it's basically an arms race.