Jaager - Now that you mention it, I do remember your genitals being seperate from the lips nips thing. Do you have the morphs and genital mapping available without the lip/nipple change or would it be hard to make that up in reasonable amount of time? I think playing with the cr2 should do the trick pretty quick, no? As for bandwidth, I've got plenty on the cable, I would love to get the genital pack again if it's still available as a freebie. I am still in love with the hi-res prop idea or even better yet Traveller's idea of hip-switching, so long as the V2 body morphs could somehow remain intact (That's probably being too picky, I know) Therefore I side with the smart prop idea, parenting it into a transmapped area of the hip. Final thought: the existing morphs for the hip that create genitals are a valiant effort but leave a great deal to be desired. Jaager, I like that last idea you mentioned. Wish you didn't lose interest. As long as I'm wishing... I wish you both would continue along all ideas mentioned here and see what ends up being best. -WTB