Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Poser 14?

Boni opened this issue on Dec 24, 2023 ยท 87 posts


JoePublic posted Sun, 11 February 2024 at 3:00 PM

The problem is not that people are not willing to share their knowledge. The problem is that the past and present owners of Poser constantly made the wrong decisions, completely misjudging their customers.

The average Poser user IS all about "load, render, post to the gallery, repeat". And as I said multiple times over the last 23 years, if that's what makes them happy, there is nothing wong with it.

If Poser would have originally come with the figures I wanted, I'd be exactly the same. While it's satisfying to be able to do whatever I want with a figure, all this tinkering takes time away from actual rendering and story telling.

If you search my name, you find that I posted quite a lot of tutorials over the time, but hardly anything ever resulted in someone trying to recreate my efforts. People are happy to download an already finished figure, but hardly anyone ever tries to do something on his own.

This is no insult, but just the way the Poser community works.

I think I already described thoroughly how to create a "to-V4" or "to-M4" figure, but you actually do need a working knowledge of how to pose and scale a figure yourself, how the MorphBrush works, how the Setup room works, how to rig, how to open a cr2 and an object file in a word editor and how to edit those files.

Explaining all this at true "beginners level" for every little step with the corresponding pictures would probably take me several days to set up.

And the result would probably be just a few Thank You's and ataboys and nothing else. Sorry, but after 23yrs I'm too tired and also cynical for that.

The days of Dr Geep and all that pioneering work are over. People want instant gratification these days.

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So, if I post something these days, it's more aimed at the current owners of Poser, not the "General Audience".

It's "Look folks, this is what a Poser figure can actually do  - Why can't the figures that come with $200 Poser do it?"

The better the people are informed, the less inclined they are to buy Poser in it's current state. The less copys of Poser are sold, the more inclined it's owners will be to make better decisions in the future.

There is a difference between "supporting" and "enabling".

(For the record, I bought Poser 11 TWICE and paid full upgrade price for Poser 13)

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At least commercially, Poser is completely dead. G8 and G9 rule undefeated but even they will soon be replaced by AI.

The old hands either defected to DAZ, dead, or are cynical old bast*rtds like me, so there isn't much hope for revoking any type of "community spirit".

Any change for the better must come from those who have the power to make the actual decisions.

I really LOVE Poser to pieces. I wouldn't blink an eye paying $1000 for a copy that has certain features that would improve my work.

I'd also happily pay $500 for a Poser figure that makes full use of all the abilities Poser actually has.

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But given the state of things as they are right now, the only "Love" I can still show Poser is sometimes being a (small) thorne in their side.

Any "real" support (like a truly elaborate tutorial, for example), would just enable them on their path of bad decisions.

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Still, if someone wants to ask me a serious question about Poser figure design and mods, just PM me. I'm a bit tired of public discussions and locked threads.

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