Obviously a JCM would be the right thing - but a JCM that wrked under all situations would be an immense task. A geom swap is something I can keyframe over time and make an "eyeball" choice on my own - plus it seems simpler ... though I could be wrong. I would pay a fairly heavy chunck of change for a Vick2 compatible fgure (texture/hair/clothing) that didn;t have the normal joint problems - as would many others I think. Yeay, the cloths would barf but most of what I put on her doesn't cover the joints anyway :)