thanks so much; I was actually looking for feedback from folks who upgraded and their actual experiences with it..like known bugs or quirks;  you know ___ doesn't render as well as 13 or 12 or.. "has issues on windows 11" .. or "they moved, x__ fill in the blank".  So far I read one review where someone stated you must have internet for 13; things along those lines. Again thanks.  Sometimes older versions are more stable.. you know the old "if it ain't broke"; I typically stopped being an early adopter of many things for that reason.  Some of Corel's software comes to mind where I have found older versions better than newer, etc.  I have had nothing but issues from the version 11, at least where it comes to installation; at one point, I received a blue screen.