I realize that everything in Life has to come as a result of something else, but theres something about this that truly bothers me a bit. I cant quite explain the difference, but having something as part of the PW update that requires the purchase of a non-DAZ or non-PW product feels like part of my subscription monies have gone to waste. Till now, Ive found all of the PW materials not only beautifully designed but immediately useful: I would receive value at the moment of download. But in the case of these textures, they will have no value to me without my purchasing a product Im not sure I really want in the first place. Does this garble make sense? =)