Thanks everyone, for all the help. Mike, I made the adjustments you suggested. Changing the view windows to "wireframe" does help a lot when moving around the models (vob or otherwise). Nothing moves very quickly in the shaded main window :) This is still the one area where Bryce may be a bit more "sturdy" than Vue :) Regarding the Virus scanner: I do use McAfee, but turned it off when I first started using the demo (control-alt-deleted everything that it runs in the background). I had read somewhere that some Virus scanners will not interfere with your software if they knows it belongs there. So today I reloaded McAfee, checked all the scan settings and rebooted. It took a long time to load......like it was taking an inventory of my harddrive. After that I started Vue, with McAfee on the task bar and found that I can now load .vob files :) Go figure! I was loading the .vob files as Varian and Cheers suggested (load vs import). This is very similar to Bryce with the .vob file being comparable to the .obp file. The demo does not provide any useable objects. All that's provided is the preview and a reference to the cd where they are located. There are also some limitations on the size of an image you can save and of course, scenes cannot be saved at all. That was once reason I thought the demo itself might be "balking" at the sight of .vob files :) Thanks Varian for pointing out that little window with what looks like an L-Square at the top. I had overlooked that and it is precisely what I was looking for! The editing tools I'm familiar with are the ones in Bryce 4's "Edit" Menu to "resize", "rotate" and "reposition". I also prefer the mouse tools..........the camera trackball in Bryce is the one I don't care for :) I discovered that you can use the arrow keys in Vue to do some "nudging" and can always type in the coordinates if necessary. I whipped up three images today just using the basic stuff that came with the demo. If you have time, take a look and give me feedback on how to improve. Again, these didn't take much time, so they're not that great. I'm going to try some "imports" later :) http://leoslair.8m.com/vue.htm I have held off purchasing Bryce 5 and am glad I did. Unfortunately, Vue requires the registration card and receipt for Bryce before it will honor the upgrade price. I purchased Bryce at Best Buy about two years ago on a Visa card and registered on-line when Bryce was still owned by MetaCreations. Who knows where any of that stuff is now. So........I will most likely buy Vue anyway :) Regular price is only $30 more than the upgrade price....and probably well worth it :) Sorry for the lengthy response and thanks for all your help.