Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: AI

pierremeu opened this issue on Sep 19, 2024 ยท 58 posts


moogal posted Mon, 14 October 2024 at 2:26 PM

Versum posted at 7:47 PM Sat, 12 October 2024 - #4490243

Sure the argument , How nice the results are when you made a AI generated random Image, You might get a little attention, It might make you feel good for a moment, but deep inside " Listen to that little voice " it does not make you feel any better, as you know that any other person can do it as well. You do not get the feeling that you really painted Art you just told someone else how you want it to be painted. Not from your hand, at the end because it was not from your own hand it just cant be exactly the way you would of made it your self. You can compare it as if you went to a painter giving him a sheet of paper on how you would wish having the painting done trying to give him directives on how you wish having it using he's personal style. So who is the Artist and who will place the signature on the corner of the Paint ? Is it you ? or is it the painter who was told how to make the painting for you ?

You need to overthink, do you want to be the Artist, or do you want to be the one who tells the artist how to do it for you.

I want the results. When I was in Jr. High I began drawing on note cards to avoid having my drawings taken from me. I soon realized that drawing smaller meant I could draw the images faster. I stopped penciling first so the images wouldn't get smudged and found that saved even more time. When I started doing CG I'd have to let the computer render over night just to get a single image. Even now I browse or organize files while images are rendered. So part of the appeal of AI is the comparative speed of the image generation.
When I use AI to create images I get the enjoyment of seeing something that did not previously exist for the first time. I can choose the subject, the setting, the style and use other images to influence composition and the colors used. So I feel it's somewhere in-between. I don't have to spend hours refining every detail of each image, each one will be of similar quality. Photographers take multiple shots of a subject not knowing at the time exactly which ones they will choose to use or show. They may not even use the entire image, instead choosing to enlarge a single area of interest. Using AI is similar. You may generate dozens of images just to get one you like. But in choosing that image over the others you are doing essentially the same thing a photographer does when choosing a few images from among many.
Art should not be judged simply on the time, money, or effort put into it. Painting is time consuming, paintings are large and need space to dry. Canvas and paints are expensive. These are just a few of the reasons people like painting on tablets. In addition, digital images can be backed up, saved to the cloud or a thumb drive. But it wasn't long ago that people using Photoshop and similar programs were looked down on for not being "real" artists simply for using a novel, non-traditional, workflow.
I find it interesting to be having this conversation here, in a forum catering to users of a program best known for supplying a range of rigged figures and props for people to use in constructing virtual scenes. Why do we use pre-made figures? Because we don't all have the time or ability to make our own? Because we can't afford to hire models to pose for us? Doesn't using pre-made assets "rob" us of the satisfaction we'd get from making everything from scratch? Or does not having to model, UV map, and rig each figure/prop merely allow Poser users to focus on the things they DO like to do, such as scene composition, staging, lighting, atmosphere etc.?