Forum: Poser 13


Subject: Future of Poser

cappy3 opened this issue on Aug 21, 2024 ยท 87 posts


JohnMichael posted Fri, 01 November 2024 at 11:06 AM

Versum posted at 8:49 PM Thu, 31 October 2024 - #4490910

JohnMichael posted at 6:05 PM Thu, 31 October 2024 - #4490906

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 2:39 PM Wed, 9 October 2024 - #4490128

Rhia474 posted at 12:49 PM Sat, 5 October 2024 - #4490012

Ah, yes, quality of Poser promos is something I have been screaming about for probably years now. Still very rarely I see the quality the DAZ side of this site offers if looking only at the promos. 


A lot of Poser users - and vendors - are STILL afraid to use Superfly and continue stuck in Firefly, which is why a lot of the promos for Poser look like they were made 15 years ago: because they were rendered in an engine that is over 15 years old.

Right now I render images using both SF and FF. And compare. Often the FF is better. The problems associated with producing great promos are 1) lighting 2) shade/shadow 3) use of color 4) camera angles, 5-the model.... I'm not convinced the SF is always better. Hair, candle light, SF probably better. Scenery, buildings, interiors, table settings... FF is very competitive and often faster. I even compared recently an interior room using SF, FF, and Daz. And the FF was better. Reflections were better, dim lighting was better, fabric textures were better. There's a certain knack to producing great promo renders. You either have it or you don't and it may not have anything to do with the render machine.    

    

Sure have to agree, Doing my self many promo Images every day having nothing to do with the render engine, a car can even have the best results rendering with the poser 4 engine. Superfly is still having massive issues with the Normal maps or I just can't handle these forcing to use bump maps, in certain cases it often renders just flat. When looking at older promos that were made with Firefly from RDNA you get the impression of a time travel back to the roots comparing renders made with Superfly. Naturally all depends if the user even qualifies to make any render  no matter what engine he is using. Considering if you want to match a FF render with a SF then it takes you allot of hour's setting up all the stuff to even come close to it for SF in addition of a good light setup with Props , this sure can take the fun of making your art. It is also just a question of preferences and style.