By your reasoning, if I don't own a car and everyone else has one, i should be allowed to steal one and hold it against car manufacturers that they charge so much for their product. Unlike food, clothing and shelter, Poser is not a necessity of life. You don't have to own it. And why, because other people own Vicky and Mike does it make it necessary for you to own them? This "bandwagon" sort of thinking is the root of your problem. This isn't a competition, and I'm assuming your livelihood doesn't necessitate your having to create pictures with Poser. So like most people who own the program, you're probably a hobbyist, just doing this for fun. So the argument that your hobby is so expensive that you have to steal things to keep doing it is not compelling. The next time you decide to steal something via warez, picture in your mind the person or persons who created that product. Even if it is what you consider a bad quality texture (then why would you buy it in the first place?), the item took the person hours to create. Don't you think people who actually do work should be compensated for it? And if they have their products here on Renderosity, Renderosity gets 50% of the price charged -- so say for the few figures I have here in the store, I only get $6 every time someone buys one. If you are so poverty stricken that you are driven to become a thief, sell Poser and find a cheap hobby -- like drawing -- where you can retain your self-respect and the respect of those around you.. Mike